I would recommend against a new player when existing scriptable ones like vlc and mpv already exist.
Instead what I would do is a plugin for either, eventually repackaged as its own player (if somehow installing the script itself is too much for some) for which the script would
include a very small torrent client
point that client to the torrent (which AFAICT is still not public, so for now a reconfigurable URL)
include a search function that when it fails, proposes to search within the trimmed cleaned torrent metadata then does the torrent download then plays.
Get torrent archives when they are ready, select the music you like and share that. Way more sustainable than streaming from a hobby project that already costs them insane amounts
Anna’s Archive is the world’s largest collection of pirated books, scientific papers and more. Recently they turned to pirating music as well, starting by dumping 86 million tracks from Spotify.
All of the scraped content is available in the form of BitTorrent shares, so you can always download parts of it and spread them further.
Then it’s not an odd question. Spotify is the frontend for Spotify, not Anna’s Archive. Local playback is different from streaming. And the content is already hosted somewhere (or will be soon).
It’s one thing to host a gigantic torrent somewhere.
It’s another thing entirely to offer up a nice frontend for everyone to play files from that torrent. First off, the traffic costs will inflate dramatically. Second, lawyers would be all over it.
They can host what they have currently because it’s low-profile enough that it doesn’t make waves. That will not be true if my mom can roll up and easily pirate her favorite songs.
Because if the files are hosted, they can be streamed. And they’re going to be hosted. They can’t control that.
Why would they account for someone developing a tool to slurp up their bandwidth?
Because it’s an inevitable reality?
I would guess we never find out because no one is ever going to make such an app, for all the reasons I listed.
The reasons you listed specified why AA cannot or should not host the files. But that is not in question. They have said they are hosting the files. They have nothing to do with why anyone anyone else cannot or should not create an app to stream those files.
It’s another thing entirely to offer up a nice frontend for everyone to play files from that torrent….. we’re talking about streaming directly from AAs servers
Anna’s Archive is a site for downloading pirated material. They already host a bunch of pirated books and other media. Don’t ask me how they get away with it.
Recently they pirated the entirety of Spotify library. OP is asking for a frontend to stream that library.
Those are the main ones. Sharing playlists would be nice but not necessary for a minimum viable product. I like the architecture @utopiah@lemmy.ml proposed too.
Jemmy
they haven’t released any of the files yet, just metadata
I would recommend against a new player when existing scriptable ones like
vlcandmpvalready exist.Instead what I would do is a plugin for either, eventually repackaged as its own player (if somehow installing the script itself is too much for some) for which the script would
I want to upvote for your first half, but your second half is just leeching.
You’d have settings for when to stop seeding, e.g. 1:1 ratio minimum, duration of the track xN, etc with a reasonable default. Suggestions welcomed.
Get torrent archives when they are ready, select the music you like and share that. Way more sustainable than streaming from a hobby project that already costs them insane amounts
I wonder could it be done as a plug-in for Popcorn Time
Or all the arr things
Havent heard of popcorn time yet
Edit: while I like the idea, I hope that the software at least seeds to ratio 1 by default. Otherwise it is pretty unsustainable for the network
Who’s Anna? What is this about?
Anna’s archive, known for “open-sourced” books. They scraped spotify recently.
Anna’s Archive is the world’s largest collection of pirated books, scientific papers and more. Recently they turned to pirating music as well, starting by dumping 86 million tracks from Spotify.
All of the scraped content is available in the form of BitTorrent shares, so you can always download parts of it and spread them further.
? Download and play the file, no?
it’s 300TB
Yeah, it’s an odd question. Spotify is that frontend.
If they mean for local playback, then yeah, that’s just any media player.
If they mean something hosted somewhere, then good luck getting funding for hosting costs, and lawyers for the barrage of C&D’s.
I assumed that they meant a streaming torrent client with some sort of search within that torrent’s file listing.
Then it’s not an odd question. Spotify is the frontend for Spotify, not Anna’s Archive. Local playback is different from streaming. And the content is already hosted somewhere (or will be soon).
It’s one thing to host a gigantic torrent somewhere.
It’s another thing entirely to offer up a nice frontend for everyone to play files from that torrent. First off, the traffic costs will inflate dramatically. Second, lawyers would be all over it.
They can host what they have currently because it’s low-profile enough that it doesn’t make waves. That will not be true if my mom can roll up and easily pirate her favorite songs.
The content will be there whether people are streaming it or not. When OP said “anyone”, they were not necessarily referring to AA.
I imagine they considered this before they acquired the content.
The question is not whether or not they will be hosting the files. They have already said they will. So that’s neither here nor there.
It’s made waves several times. Including the time Meta scraped all the books from it.
Guess we’re going to find out!
Sure, not sure how that applies to what I said though.
Why would they account for someone developing a tool to slurp up their bandwidth?
Why is that the question?
That’s not even remotely comparable to someone creating a publically accessible, friendly UI for reading all those books.
I would guess we never find out because no one is ever going to make such an app, for all the reasons I listed.
Because if the files are hosted, they can be streamed. And they’re going to be hosted. They can’t control that.
Because it’s an inevitable reality?
The reasons you listed specified why AA cannot or should not host the files. But that is not in question. They have said they are hosting the files. They have nothing to do with why anyone anyone else cannot or should not create an app to stream those files.
I like this idea too!
Not how torrents work
Also not how torrents work
It was covered in many major news outlets.
Buddy, we’re talking about streaming directly from AAs servers, not torrenting as a concept.
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Aah, the streaming generation.
Anna’s Archive is a site for downloading pirated material. They already host a bunch of pirated books and other media. Don’t ask me how they get away with it.
Recently they pirated the entirety of Spotify library. OP is asking for a frontend to stream that library.
Yup, my comment was made with that understanding.
It’s one file?
it’s in big batches
Are you looking for something like Lidarr?
What features would people expect/want such software to have?
Those are the main ones. Sharing playlists would be nice but not necessary for a minimum viable product. I like the architecture @utopiah@lemmy.ml proposed too.