Billionaire Musk bought control of US government and conspiracy theorists sure are quiet | Opinion

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What in the name of the Illuminati is going on here? And why in the name of Alex Jones are you usually reliable nutters not freaking the heck out?

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It's almost as if they're bad-faith hypocrites who will drop any supposed values the instant it's convenient for consolidating their power.

It’s almost like they’re paid propaganda and disinformation campaigns of the far right.

Exactly. (And foreign states who align with the US far-right)

aka, Fascists. The lot of them.

As is anyone defending or supporting president musk.

Because all this is happening out in the open, there's no secret conspiracy.

A conspiracy theorist thrives on being one of the few who know the actual truth.

It's specifically about being against the narrative. George Bush could come out and say he did 9/11 to destroy Hillary Clinton's checks to Jeffrey Epstein saying "For child prostitutes/adrenochrome" and they would go on about how that's just a psyop to make people go back into quarantine

I mean, if President Joe Biden had brought Soros into the government as an “efficiency expert” and let him have access to federal government data, Republicans would have impeached Biden instantly. They would have set the White House on fire using the flames erupting from the heads of Fox News hosts.

The only difference I can see here is that Musk isn’t … ohhhhhh, wait a minute. I get it. He’s not Jewish. I forgot your whole thing has to be antisemitic. My bad.

They would have *literally* set the White House on fire using pipe bombs.

Whoa now. Let's not be hasty. As a Canadian, I beg you to step back, think a sec, and not get derailed.

Burning the white House is our thing.

Don't let us stop you from having another good time

Then do it.

Keep the tradition alive!

The question remains: Why arent leftists willing to go the extra distance to meet their repu(gnant)blican opposition.

Because if I go commit some right wing terrorism I get slapped on the wrist and a pardon from my daddy.

If I do that as a leftist, they kill me.

Until we have enough people willing to die for this, we're kinda stuck.

If I do that as a leftist, they kill me.

Even if you don't do that, they're still going to kill us if they can.

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Because there aren't many leftists in the US.

It truly is the most deep statey info warrior bowling Greene lizard people pizza gate conspiracy that I've ever seen.

Yet, nothing. lol.

Alex Jones use to complain about transhumanists but now that they guy who actually wants to put computer chips in your brain has control of the federal government his top concern is... (literally looking a infowars right now)... oh god just constantly glazing trump. Also, zelensky is a warmonger who wants nukes.

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He has a small team installing invisible parasites that transferred directly into untraceable coins like Monero. That's why he has a cloyd computing guy (Tom Krause) and a software engineer (Marko Elez) working closest to the system.

It's a heist because he's desperate to be the world's first trillionaire and take over everything... And he'll do it too. Mark my words, he'll be a trillionaire some time within four years.

(And it looks like Reddit is nkw compromised too)

Spez has been fasc-adjacent for a long time, so no surprise there.

First trillionaire should be dipped in gold and put on display as a warning.

Conspiracy theorists are quiet cause there is no conspiracy to unearth here LOL. Elmo has literally bought US President and he is openly running (ruining ?) the government as his personal office. He even provides regular public updates at his personal platform X on how he is destroying US government institution by institution!

Yeah, when George Soros does it, he does it quietly.

It's sarcasm. Leave me alone.

This is more evidence for what I call "the meta conspiracy." I think conspiracy thinking has been actively promoted by the media and government in order to distract from actual government conspiracies. It both keeps people distracted with "UAPs" and "Adrenochrome" while also making any serious discussion of oligarchy, censorship, and oppression look ridiculous by association with crackpots.

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I agree with the gaslighting part, but don’t necessarily think it was “the government”.

I think it was billionaire/adversaries funded groups, probably Elon in part, definitely Russia/China.

Elon understood Twitter/SM very early on. I remember reading somewhere how Tesla didn’t spend a dime on (traditional) marketing the first few years, it was pure social media manipulation / dark patterns.

“The point of propaganda is not to make you believe something in particular, is to make you not believe anything.”
- G. Kasparov

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIA Director (1981)

Same set of dipshits that form groups like the oathkeepers, etc and stockpile weapons against a tyrannical government, but constantly advocate for everything counter to this country's people and for a tyrannical government...

Also the same set of dipshits that make up bullshit about "child trafficking" when it comes to Democrats, but embrace people like donvict, Gaetz, and so on...

No one should be surprised at all.

Who cares about conspiracy theorists. Someone do something about it

Its up to us. Bring the nation to a grinding halt.

I'm German so I can't do much

You can stop buying American products and services. As a US citizen, I think the rest of the planet needs to boycott our shit.

I know it will hurt me and other US citizens. That's not really the point anymore. We will get hurt anyway. One of the few ways to undermine what they're trying to do is to hit them in the pocketbook and stop giving them money.

So, what you *can* do is purchase with your conscience in knowing that supporting the US is supporting a despotic regime.

That's all you can really do, and considering how much of an aberrant bully the US has been, I can't really ask for help beyond that.

Boycott is the weakest form of protest, I say that as a vegan

For sure, but it's well within reach of people outside of the US without having to ask more of them. They have their own problems, and a lot of those problems they have historically have been made worse by US meddling. I don't expect people from the rest of the world to come running to save the US, I think the world learned that lesson after 9/11 when we threw away the good will of the wider world to become Team America World Police.

That's why, despite it not being a strong form of protest, it's all I feel comfortable asking of people from elsewhere in the world in stopping what is happening here.

Not really the type of conspiracy they go for, it's being done overtly, visibly, and in a way that everyone believes it is going on. Most of the "fun" of crazy conspiracies is that you have to convince everyone that you aren't crazy, that it's totally happening, and your proof is real... none of that is necessary here, they are plainly stating what they are doing, no smoke, no mirrors. Just blatant criminal power grabbing.

Conspiracy theorists are no longer interested when it’s no longer a theory. Always been

Or... They're only interested in conspiracy theories when those theories reinforce their own persecution complexes.

The twist here is that Musk's shenanigans are going to seriously fuck them over, but they don't realize it yet.

I'm more of a conspiracy hypothesist myself.

Instead of echo chambering shitty journalism sites like commondreams, rawstory, new republic, etc, locations that feed you the headlines you want to hear or validate confirmation bias searching, and turning into Reddit, talk to people.

It’s a blind faith thing. They believe. The MAGA ethos of Trump encompasses Elon Musk. It’s like Jupiter’s magnetic field extending its protection to its moons. The MAGAs are making excuses for Elon just like they do for Trump.

The main argument: he’s not doing it for money, he’s already rich.

When you ask why is Elon doing it then, the answers get sycophantic and delve into the straight, benevolent love of America. (I know, lol.)

Remember, politics relies on drive by ideas that can be contained in a single, simple sentence, not essays. Essay readers are in the minority. Article readers beyond headlines are a minority. You have to have a punchy counter argument that fits a sentence as easily as the “he’s already rich, it’s love of America” or you’ll lose that debate.

You have to have a punchy counter argument that fits a sentence as easily as the “he’s already rich, it’s love of America” or you’ll lose that debate.

Mmmm . . “He’s an unelected fascist who should be launched into the fiery heart of the sun.” ?

If they're going to use a thumbnail of Elon Musk, the Nazi, they used the wrong one.

It's later in the article. Yeah they could have put it up top.

But, but, it is the *right* side of coup!

It's because the corruption is too straight forward.

Conspiracy theorists revel in thinking they're smart for connecting the dots, even if the dots don't form any kind of picture. That part is irrelevant to them. Feeling smart is the whole point.

This is just basic corruption that doesn't require any imaginary dot connecting. It doesn't serve to make them feel intellectually superior.

No one has any theories about it because there's no need. They're doing everything in the light of day. You don't sound like a nut if you say "that racist billionaire bought the US government" because we WATCHED IT HAPPEN. The conspiracy crowd is busy with cryptocurrency and sovcit diversions.

Because most conspiracy theorists are right-wing, and only have issues with anything remotely left of Margaret Thatcher, if MT didn't somehow become "too far-left" due to how the Overton Window moved further to the right...

I think that's true now, but I don't think it was necessarily true prior to The Demented Rapist descending the escalator.

A good government coverup is fodder for both sides, but after 2016 with all the Qanut stuff they just went absolutely banapants crazy.

My brothers one of them. Thinks cuz he lucked out on Bitcoin he won't have to pay taxes of the government falls, so he's stoaked about it. Thinks he'll never have to work again cuz a lack of regulation means he keeps it all when he sells em. Also was genuinely happy when I called him an Anarcho capitalist..... Grown ass man, still a simpleton

America on sale now!!! 75% off!!!! This offer won't last!!!! Sale! Sale! Sale!

[Billionaire shoppers haggling for a better deal at the counter]

OK, OK, you can have it at 80% ... no 90% off!!!!! Today only!!!!

B-b-but G-g-george S-s-soros!

Wrong audience mate

It's just a totem pole of different psychotic groups giving orders

On top, the "0.1%" being a vague amalgamation of Corpo and Tech Fascists, who are looking to basically seperate themselves from society. And gain a form of Sovereignty overtop of the government itself, with their territory not being states and nations but their own networks of followers. Primarily through Social Media , Television and Internet.

Then there's the government, That is populated with slackjawed knuckle dragging chuds who want to roll on a vague Ultranationalist-Jingoism-Ultraconservative ticket.

these two groups basically think they control the other, but more or less co-exist and let the other think they're in charge.

And then below both of these groups are the diehard, dimwitted followers who are supporting them either because they think they're going to get rich by doing so, or because they want to "own" someone.

and beyond that... it starts to become everyone else.

Whew that shattered off a fragment of my mind. It's ironic that we say they want to own (get one over on) the libs, but what they really want is to do is own (enslave) an outgroup.

Because most of them were paid astroturf, too. Job done.

The supposed conspiracy people are 100% establishment figures.

Probably because most of them voted for this. That's at least what I've come to believe. This is a terrifying time we are in, for sure.

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I don't understand the US, there was a big fuzz a decade or so ago when there were talks of Schwarzenegger as presidential candidate and 10-15 years later you get a non-elected foreign in the government?

Honestly you need Arnold back, with his Conan sword.

The TL;DR is Propaganda works. And the US is flooded with it.

And for those who think the "left" can just copy propaganda - no, it *doesn't* work like that. Propaganda only serves conservative goals.

Propaganda only serves conservative goals.

Disagree, our lack of left-wing propaganda and left-wing financial support for influencer media is 75% of the reason dems lose.

Right, and how exactly is the group that decries capitalism meant to obtain financial support, or break through the righ-wing captured media?

Capitalism is fundamentally incompatible with leftist ideology, and will do everything in its power to squash it.

I don't think it would take that much capital. 20 million a year you could sponsor a hundred operations all over the country in places with tons of talent but no funding. They can also end up generating profit to self sustain themselves.

Well that's certainly true- I guess maybe I should say the past attempts at a right-wing style approach to media but from a left-wing perspective have failed.

Absolutely, I'd 100% agree with you there.

Leftist propaganda works really well in my country.

Like what? How does it work?

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The usual: they control most of the media through subsidies. Keep calling everyone against them "far right" while making deals with actual ethnonationalist far right parties. At some point they even took part in the overtaking of one of the banks (but it wasn't succesful), oh and they also control the biggests syndicates and funny thing they recently went to strike to protest the opposition.

Also populism.

Huh. That’s wild.

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*conquistador pfp*

*whining about the radical leftism of Spain*

*says they control the media and are trying to control the banks*

LoL

Edit: yeah, I block obvious fascists, keep on yelling into that void lol

Conspiracy theorists don't care that there's a conspiracy. They only care whether they're in on it.

At this stage, I would be happy to never have to interact with another conspiracy theorist. They can all go home and commit seppuku, do something useful for society for the first time in their shitty lives.

Why don't you ask individual people what they think, instead of dealing with huge generalities and stereotypes that don't really apply to anyone in particular.

This is the part that you guys take over the conspiracy responsibilities. You know like: there wont be anymore elections, immigrant death camps, Musk has seized control of the gubment.........etc

They already made the immigrant camp you dumbass

Really? Where is this immigrant death camp?