JemmyHelp the homeless, go to jail: Fremont passes new law
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The law criminalizes being outside with “camping paraphernalia,” like sleeping bags or cookware, without written permission from property owners or the city. It includes a provision that anyone “causing, permitting, aiding, abetting or concealing” violations is subject to up to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine.
“[The mayor] claims no service providers will get arrested, but ultimately, the law prevails,” said Vivian Han, CEO of the nonprofit Abode Services. “This is for all time, not just while he’s mayor.”
Greg Ward, a minister at Mission Peak Unitarian Universalist Congregation, said his church hands out “blessing bags” of food and clothing.
“Putting [them] in the hands of the unhoused could be aiding and abetting,” said Ward. “That could make us criminals.”
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So... I don't get it, what's the end goal with this massive no-win scenario? What are the people who were thrown in the gutter by the State in the first place supposed to do if they're not allowed to be in said gutter?
To me, this sounds like the State handing out compulsory baggies of coke, then arresting everyone for possession...
what's the end goal with this massive no-win scenario?
To get more fire-fighting slaves volunteer prison firefighters to cheaply fight the inevitable further wildfires brought about by uncontrolled climate change, duh
potoooooooo ✅️To get rid of the homeless. Ideally, by shoving them out of sight. But...y'know...whatever happens happens. We certainly don't enjoy being forced to do this!
Is the goal of the US government to put everyone in jail?
x00zChatGPT tells me that 15% of the population is the absolute maximum amount you can enslave. Anything beyond that would be too hard and dangerous to manage. So while not everyone, it's still a big number.
The current imprisonment rate in the US is 0.54%. I'm sure some people might think this number needs to get to 10%+ asap.
Snot FlickermanWhy the fuck do people take ChatGPT as an authority on fucking *anything*? What happened to doing proper research in your own?
You may as well have pulled 15% number out of your ass and made the same comment and it would have about the same validity.
It’s just a funny anecdote.
I threw my fuzzy dice on the floor and 5 donuts is the absolute maximum donuts I’m allowed to eat today. Anything beyond that would just be unhealthy.
NoxyChatGPT tells me
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It's just a funny anecdote.
setVeryLoud(true);It's not even an anecdote, and not likely to be anywhere near accurate.
You're talking to an RNG and potentially spreading misinformation.
talhttps://www.city-data.com/city/Fremont-California.html
Mean prices in 2022: all housing units: over $1,000,000; detached houses: over $1,000,000; townhouses or other attached units: over $1,000,000; in 2-unit structures: $871,684; in 3-to-4-unit structures: $882,000; in 5-or-more-unit structures: $724,990; mobile homes: $226,331
Median gross rent in 2022: $2,745.
This happens when housing construction is constrained.
Fremont exists on a strip of land between the mountains and San Francisco Bay. It cannot expand outwards. It can only expand upwards.
That's what Fremont looks like. It is full of low-height residential buildings.
You want people to be in houses, then you're going to have to adjust zoning and planning restrictions to permit Fremont to grow upwards.
Don't do that, and people will simply bid what they are able and willing to bid to try to force someone else out of the limited supply of housing so that they can live there. Some people will not be able and willing, and those people won't get housing in Fremont. If you don't like that, then you need to remove restrictions on vertical growth.
I mean, I agree that it's unaffordable, and that building up is a solution to that, but homelessness is rarely caused by housing costs being too high.
Most people who can't afford the rising cost of living in an area either add roommates or move somewhere cheaper.
To end up in a tent in an encampment is almost always correlated with drug use or mental illness.
Which isn't to say we shouldn't take care of those people. We should. But lack of housing is almost never the limiting factor there.
Morons who decided to support such law are free to give up their houses. These can be used for homeless people instead.
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