JemmyGreta Thunberg departs Israel on flight to Paris after detention aboard aid ship
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She could do the funniest thing now and get on the next humanitarian boat back.
Edit: me do grammar poorly
She already said that she'd do just that. Let's see how fast they'll let her leave next time. If at all.
They will let her leave. Not letting her leave would be more of a problem for them and probably what she wants.
I dunno. If you can get away with murdering civilians, children, aid workers and journalists. Maybe you want to start testing if you can get away with murdering celebrities.
Nah. That’s when people care. They’ll put her in a golden prison and use her to look good after they free her.
One of the activist is a journalist who said thst they didn't allow her to sleep. Rima hassan was threaatned to smash her face.
They put her on a plane to Paris yesterday.
Yes, this is if she gets back on the boat again
That's what the internet already screamed last time
Some people don't want to accept reality doesn't fit their worldview
I know it's stupid, but I have this nagging thought that they should use a narco sub next time.
That will give them an excuse to just bomb them
there was one in 2010 where the bomb and killed people
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I'm sorry but that is patently a false statement. Removed for misinformation.
https://www.france24.com/en/20100601-repatriated-flotilla-activists-challenge-israeli-version-deadly-raid-israel-gaza
There’s literal drone footage video you can watch to see what happened.
The activists protecting them self against israeli terrorists. Nothing justify shooting people multiple time to kill them. One bullet is enough to paralize anybody
They're fascists, they always have an excuse. They can and did attack them under the excuse of the blockade.
You a word.
So grab the passengers of a boat in international wares and jail them in Israel. 😒
Is there a charitable interpretation that could make this statement true?
The ship was nowhere near Gaza. They were off the coast of Egypt in International waters. Israel just kidnapped a bunch of people. Also they only released Greta? What about the other people?
The others refused to be sent back to France, as they would have to agree to be permanently banned from Israel.
They refuse to sign a document saying that they enteres israel legally which make it look like israel kidnapping was legal and legitimate
Greta is one of four activists that have been sent home. According to Israel only those four signed the papers neededfor it and the rest are expected to be sent home after a court have ruled they can. Basically the remaining 8 activists reportedly chose not to give Israel the easy way of getting rid of them. I don’t have any English news sources though, as I read it in a newspaper in my native language.
"It's not safe to sail into an active genocide."
but someone must
Since Gaza is an open air prison under the control of Israel and not recognized as an independent state we can blockade it all we want.
Best I got.
Really hard to justify genocide.
Palestine is not a recognized country in most of the western world, which in itself is a travesty, but you can probably infer a lot of bs from that.
Like claiming a certain religious group has no human rights bc they're not recognized as humans.
That's not even true.
75% of the world recognizes Palestine as a sovereign state.
To be fair, they specified “western world”. If you look at the map of countries that recognize Palestine, it’s pretty glaring that a good chunk of Europe, Canada/US, and Australia/NZ don’t officially recognize it.
Why does it even matter if it's the west or other countries. Foes western countries have more legitimacy?
That's almost a 1:1 map of the G8. Fun.
They were running a blockade. Being arrested was the point.
They declared war, they are allowed to enct vlockades according to international law.
They declared war? So they recognize a Palestinian state and Gaza as part of that states territory? They recognize Hamas as the government of Gaza?
Meanwhile the ICJ ruled that the blockade of Gaza amounts to a de facto occupation, well before Oct. 7. Furthermore the ICJ ruled that this occupation is illegal. So Israel is obliged to end the occupation, including the blockade as well as having the obligation to provide for the people under its occupation. An obligation which Israel also violates by the blockade.
On top of that there has been multiple rulings of preliminary measures Israel has to take to prevent the risk of a genocide being committed against the Palestinian people. The key obligation again being unhindered access for humanitarian aid.
Nothing of what Israel is doing is legal by international law.
Enact blockades in international waters?
Yes, that’s how blockades work. https://openyls.law.yale.edu/bitstream/handle/20.500.13051/8684/43_101YaleLJ893_1991_1992_.pdf?sequence=2&isAllowed=y
Is there something specific in there you wanted to reference?
Page 898
Page 901
How else are you supposed to enact blockades in the age of anti-ship missiles?
International law doesn't permit the blockading of humanitarian aid. Israel was allowed to board and inspect the vessel, but not block it from entry.
Humanitarian aid is getting in through land borders into Gaza.
Gaza doesn’t have a port suitable for delivering large amounts of goods in the first place. Aid delivery has to go through the proper channels.
Don't you mean the illegal channel controlled by thr occupying force
International law doesn't put up any of those restrictions. As an illegal occupying force Israel is not allowed to dictate what the "proper" channels are.
Of course the occupying power can and has to do this according to international humanitarian law.
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I like voyager because it shows you if an account is less than a day old and therefore likely a bot or troll.
It just did it again with yours.
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Uncommonly fast for Israel.
They did it for PR. The other who refused to sign paper that will make them look like they entered israel legally are still abducted in jail
Probably because they dont want to turn her into a martyr...
Alternatively its because killing a white western girl with a recognisable name is more difficult to justify over here and they are VERY aware of this
See guys Isreal's above something as terrible as killing a white person
No but in all seriousness I think they were ready to kill her before they saw how popular she is
Not in general. Something deterred them here - probably the public scrutiny.
I think what you responded to was sarcasm
fuck that sent me
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie
Touché
Learn something new, thanks.
Yup. The only reason Greta isn't dead or held captive is because of her celebrity status.
If she was just another no-name activist, she wouldn't be on that plane to Paris.
I truly believe that they were ready to murder her before they saw the reaction she was getting and realized it would have backfired tremendously.
Didn't stop them with this one. https://www.npr.org/2024/09/09/nx-s1-5106819/us-israel-american-woman-shooting-west-bank
Or this one in 2003: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie
She wasn't internationally famous.
This. While those deaths were notable and tragic, they weren't "celebrity deaths", which pains me to even say, but it is true.
Greta is essentially an international celebrity at this point, not just some noteworthy activist. Her death would be much more noticeable throughout the modern zeitgeist than a random activist who happened to be American.
Another reason would probably be she's too old for IDF scumbags, murdering any child above 12 yo doesn't do it for them.
I figured it was a North Korea / Blazing Saddles move.
There are plenty of right-wingers in the west (including several politicians) who would love to see her
unalived.killed.Killed. The word you're looking for is "killed".
This isn't tiktok, we can use big boy language here.
Sorry. I didn’t wanna risk getting banned. But then this isn’t Reddit, either so I’m probably safe. I’ll fix it.
Probably wanted to get her gone fast before one of the many psychopaths in their army got to her and created an incident they'd have to transparently lie about, then ignore. It's tough being the most moral army in the world.
100%
She is too high profile to have around the grunts, also is a very vocal woman who isn't afraid to upset authority. One pissed off murderer that feels slighted ends up doing something to her and that's a mountain which can't be made into a mole hill like they have been doing.
EDIT: Kidnapping. The word you're ignoring in the title is kidnapping.
They put it in quotes.
Funny how they are careful with words when they were literally on international water.
I feel like indie news is more important than ever, even if it means hand-cranked mimeos and passing them from person to person. Telecom can be cut at any time.
It's not kidnapping if Israel does it apparently 🤨
It's only sparkling detention
When the UN doesn’t stop the Israeli’s from declaring it a conflict zone. It’s technically not kidnapping. Just like how the US abducted people in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Captured or arrested is the word you're actually looking for. Or, as it currently stands, released.
Y'all are delusional trying to make 'kidnapping" a thing 🤣
What would you call intercepting someone in international waters and taking them back to your country without their consent? If Somali pirates did that you'd have no qualms using the word 'kidnapped'.
It's a blockade for a war zone. Standard practice for centuries, unless they just shoot you which was the previous option for most of humanity.
Now let's get pedantic and have someone screech that Israel doesn't recognize Palestine and it's not a war so no blockade 🙄
The blockade is illegal and israel didn't do it job to allow enough food and aid to enter which is an obligation. They are even shooting people seeking aid
Israel does not recognise that there are civilian non-combatants in Gaza and therefore does not allow aid to enter. How about you?
They was jailed for navigating on internal water. It is illegal therefore it's abduction
Yeah it's real typical for kidnappings to be publicly known, announced in advance and then the victim safetly returned promptly, entirely unharmed. Im sure you can fram it as a kidnapping with some backflips, but you just look like a whiny child.
She was captured and held unlawfully sure, but if it was actually for humanitarian aid and not self publicity, i might have some sympathy.
Can't really agree with you on this one. I would welcome and fight for more people doing the right thing for personal benefit. Seems a lot better than the current circumstances.
Doing the right thing for the wrong reasons, in my experience, backfires more often than not. It's a dangerous gamble.
Yes. The only tatoo idea I have for myself involves dice, chains, and the words "Let's tempt Fate." While I would prefer an ideal situation, it's taking too long. I will support any act that brings aid, supplies, or more notoriety to the plight of Gaza. Even Al-Capone had a soup kitchen for the hungry Chicagans of the Great Depression.
If you want this conflict to end the last thing you want to give it is more noteriety. The only reason this is still happening is because of outside influences.
Can you please elaborate on that connection from your perspective. I imagine there must be some context I am overlooking.
Willful ignorance of atrocities does not have any chance of stopping or slowing them.
Source: Russian Gulags, North Korea, US native women murders/trafficking, Auschwitz.
So if somali pirates would just take the ship and send the crew back home it would all be good?
You're having an interesting opinion here.
I mean, honestly it worked for privateers. Hold up a ship, steal their gold and liquor, leave a month's rations, and sail on. Come to think of it, old school pirates probably had more empathy than Israeli leaders...
Inequivalent.
you sure act like a whiny child, when faced with some solid arguments.
That's fine
She was kidnapped then released while other are still in jail for doing nothing illegal
Good. They're interfering in things they hardly understand.
They understand everything about israel 57 years of occupation
Ha, dont believe that for a minute.
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Israel does not feel a need to hide their crimes because they believe any action they take is righteous because they are doing it and any action their enemies take is evil because they are doing it
Becuase thy know the whole world won't do anything
Couldnt you say much the same for the other side?
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That's not a claim I made, soz to confuse you.
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I honestly didn't expect her to survive this one. She made it publicly known what she was doing so Israel couldn't say it was a normal bombing of transport ships. But I figured they would use her as an example and destroy the ship.
One person on board with her is a European Union member of parliament from France. That provides a lot more protection than Greta's reputation can.
In a way sort of good news, no?
In the sense that they didn't disappear her or murder her, yes.
You wanna say, "Could've been worse"
worse
:)
If you want to get food aid into Gaza, it might be best to smuggle it in using drones or cartel subs.
Or send Greta Thunberg on a decoy ship!
What an anemic headline. How did she become detained? By an act of piracy and kidnapping in international waters. CNN is a tool of the oligarchs.
It is known. CNN has always been lib slop
It's actually gotten worse. The management of CNN changed recentlyish and has been pushing CNN more to the right. I think it was to increase viewership, but ultimately just means the quality (not that it was very high to begin with) has dropped.
Watching their recent coverage of LA and NY I was kinda astounded by the slant on it.
Intercepting a ship that intends to run a blockade in international waters is legal according to international law. The flotilla had stated its intention repeatedly and were warned several times before being intercepted and finally boarded.
That assumes the blockade is legal though? Has an international court that is recognized by the ship’s flag country declared the legality of the blockade?
I don’t know of a court ruling. The UN‘s Palmer Report declared it Legal.
However as with lots of things regarding international law, there are different opinions.
Icj in 2024 said it was illegal. They wasn't even intercepted in gaza water. No matter how you look at it it was illegal.
Its only illegal if you don't have nukes
you might disagree with what's happening but this was legal. Israel has a blockade there
It's a really good example of how abuse and evil can often be legal while doing what's right can often be illegal.
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The let also other people out
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I'm so happy she survived! They where smart enough to let her live!
I hate that someone recorded this without her consent.
When you're a public figure, that's to be expected.
Right to information here as well. It gives publicly useful infos, whether you like it or not
How do we know it was without consent?
Yup same, some people don't believe in some human rights, like portrait right.
Wait... are we framing her as a kidnapped child or a POW? Gotta make sure everyone is on the same page when making propaganda about this.
She's not a child and shes not a POW according to article 4 of the third Geneva convention.
She’s defintely an adult. But yeah apprehended in international waters, taken to a country that she didn’t chose to enter willingly, and then deported.
Ah, trafficing!
She intended to enter territorial waters and breach the blockade. That’s intention to enter.
Yeah obviously they were there to enter they said it over and over… how else would aid get in if actually getting in wasn’t the plan? Even if they weren’t there to enter, for some reason, the fact that they said they were going to enter so many times would be considered credible
The aid gets in through the official open crossings, Eretz for example. Not by breaching a naval blockade.
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Where are all the people telling me she was goinf to be tortured and killed now?
The last one was attacked by drones. They was a chance. Great that it didn't happen
Elated to be wrong. You see, that is how being an adult works. Sometimes you are wrong, and when you are wrong about something with a positive outcome, you are happy that you were wrong.
but also, spending energy on prevention (the publicity) and then when the thing doesn’t occur saying “i guess we were wrong” is the wrong take i think
same thing with Y2K and plenty of engineering things: people were saying “it was no big deal! yall were saying planes were going to fall out of the sky! we wasted so much time and money!”… yeah; it was a huge and expensive effort that’s why the bad things didn’t happen
Genuinely surprised. How many others have not been so lucky?
Public attention from them and others is why she’s being gently handled. You should thank those who raised the alarm on her behalf, not Israel.
Shoehorni g reality to fit their believes it seems.
Ooh check out the genocide apologist, making a super strong argument about how just and honorable Israel is. So intelligent and brave! You should get a sticker from Bibi to put on your shirt.
Right here. I would have never in a million years have imagined that they would just let her go. This is an extremely surprising turn of events.
Consider this: You might be misinformed about the whole situation.
Isreal has already shown that they'll wipe out an entire population just because they don't like their religion, one more murder would just be another day in the life for them.
What population was wiped out because of their religion?
that would require thinking, how dare you insult his beliefs
Celebrities don't get that kind of treatment.
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And Palestine is now saved, THANKS GRETA!
You have no rights to that name. The eight doctor would never spew drivvel like that.
None of the doctors would do that.
The eighth doctor would literally have been on the boat with greta.
The fuck have you done?
Did she ever accomplish anything other than going to places getting arrested and changing absolutely nothing?
What is her job? Going around the world with seemingly unlimited funds and giving some interviews? Just sounds like a Kardashian with extra steps.
Oh yes she should just stay at home and pout.
Fuck you.
She brought attention to the Palestinian genocide millions of people while putting Israel in a bad light.
What have you done today? Maybe made a donation to make you feel better?
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Unfortunately no, I have to actually work for a company most of my days to be able to live.
Where do I pick it up?
Dude is on social media trying to prove something about his life to people who wouldn't even care if he existed or not 😂
I just didn't realize that a upper class influencer girl who never worked a day in her life was the hero of lemmy proletariat, that was my mistake
I work for a living and still find time to go to protests, raise awareness, and lobby my politicians.
And there is still war in gaza. You are useless
Therefore I respect you more than Greta
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TIL: Not sucking the figurative dick of Greta makes you pro-genocide
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Yes, she did. She provided mutual aid. She might not have saved the entire world, but no one ever does. She helped a few, and that is more than anyone could say about you.
I donate to unicef so I guess I did the same as her without the free trips and celebrity status, where is my Nobel?
You are lying about donating to unicef
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Irony is wasted on you it seems
What's your job? Whining and bitching about someone doing something that takes more courage than your dumb ass will cumulatively muster over the entirety of your life?
It's got you here talking about it with your terrible opinions, hasn't it?
Take a look at this image and tell me if you think these guys accomplished anything other than going to a lunch counter and getting arrested and changing "absolutely nothing"?
Raising awerness . Many protests was organized after that
I guess some people genuinely don’t understand activism and collectivism
I was trying to unpack how many layers of stupid your comment is. But i felt my brain starting to rot. So i stopped.
And it gets worse by every comment. Some people just are very confident about their low IQ.
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Ooga, strong woman, where makeup? Me mad, booga👍
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If it doesn't matter anyway in the end then why not make it better for now?
Small stuff like "not comitting a genocide" won't impact anyone after humanity declines so we might as well not commit genocide, no? Same for climate change.
Sure you may not want to do it but why insult people who want and enjoy doing it. Especially if you truly believe their actions don't change anything.
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