JemmyFinally witnessed somebody use ChatGPT instead of socialising
RayquetzalcoatlA few colleagues and I were sat at our desks the other day, and one of them asked the group, "if you were an animal, what animal would you be?"
I answered with my favourite animal, and we had a little discussion about it. My other colleague answered with two animals, and we tossed those answers back and forth, discussing them and making jokes. We asked the colleague who had asked the question what they thought they'd be, and we discussed their answer.
Regular, normal, light-hearted (time wasting lol) small talk at work between friendly coworkers.
We asked the fourth coworker. He said he'd ask ChatGPT.
It was a really weird moment. We all just kind of sat there. He said the animal it came back with, and that was that. Any further discussion was just "yeah that's what it said" and we all just sort of went back to our work.
That was weird, right? Using ChatGPT for what is clearly just a little bit of friendly small talk? There's no bad blood between any of us, we hang out a lot, but it just struck me as really weird and a little bit sad.
I think y'all need to kill the fourth guy.
Honestly that's the same with one of our friends.
He got sucked into the LLM rabbit hole and now just occasionally says some weird shit no one interacts with.
I have a feeling that brainrot is accelerated in these kinds of people due to a positive feedback loop as they become ostracized due to a noticible "self-deterioration".
Use LLM -> become brainrot -> can't connect with others -> use more LLM -> become more brainrot -> more ostracized from society -> ad nauseum.
They’re pushing LLMs so fucking hard at work but I finally destroyed my personal OpenAI account and decided to go back to actually researching topics.
It just got to the point that I got tired of constantly rewriting the same fucking problem 20 million ways in hopes of finally getting the right answer. I kept noticing that if I just slowed down and looked at what it was doing I could find the flaw myself in seconds.
Dunno about you, but whenever I have to post something on Stack Overflow or similars, explaining minute detail what my problem is, I often end up finding out what's wrong. I suppose that can work on many other areas, too
This is exactly the concept behind Rubber Duck debugging.!
Way before chatgpt, i had a good friend who was kind of behind. He was pretty much the only person i knew without a smartphone. Non of my friend group had social media, so it's not like it mattered much. We would talk for hours about movies and books we read. We talked about hidden meanings behind movies, if we couldn't remember what actors were in a movie, we just discussed it and talked about it and maybe eventually we figured it out. Or not.
One day, he got a new iphone and that was basically when we stopped hanging out. He became terminally online, and we couldn't have a conversation anymore. Every conversation i tried to have with him was just him googling the answer. What do you think about that movie? I'll ask imdb if the movie is good. It was more like talking to google itself than an actual person.
I think that's what the future is gonna be like. Everyone you talk to may just ask chatgpt for the "right" answer or the "best" thing to say. It's already happening on dating platforms, where a lot of women i see just have the same generic AI introduction and say that they ask chatgpt for advice. That coupled with the fakest, AI enhanced, filter filled pictures, who are you even talking to? Not a real person it seems.
its already wreaking havoc in grad school and college, i was surprised it took this long to reach normal convo.
“Yeah, dude, I wasn’t asking ChatGPT, I was asking you!!”
That guy is weird af.
Haha yeah I was tempted to say something like that but ultimately just didn't want to get into it
Guy lost his brain
Yeah sounds like no one at the table had basic social skills. At least GPT guy was aware lmao
Making small talk with coworkers means we have no basic social skills? I'd argue that small talk might be one of the most basic social skills personally lol
Aware of what?
"Jackson, what the fuck was that? Don't ever do that again. Fucking ew."
"ewwww, brother! ewww! What's that? Brother, what's that?"
I’ve started treating it as the last tool I reach for in my toolbox. When it first came out, I was all for it, but then people started taking a picture of a plant and expecting it to reliably identify them, then asking it for nutrition advice, then asking it about weather and the news.
It’s useful for a small subset of people for some of the time, but the vast majority, it just makes things more difficult.
this is not just friendly small talk, but questions like this are aimed to make people talk about themselves, in a way tell other people what kind of person they are. what superpower you'd have, what animal you'd be, what you would do with a million dollars, what one book/album you would take to an island to read/listen to forever...
these don't have a right answer and they reveal something about the people discussing it. asking a machine like it's some puzzle to solve is extremely fucking weird. the lengths people go to just not to use their noggin is concerning.
It sure revealed something about the person who used ChatGPT, so mission accomplished.
Sounds like a good way to get bad people from knowing too much about you.
My father in law is that guy. He loves tech and gadgets and new things. He makes Ai characters of us. We all tell him we hate them and that it's slop and he says "ya, it's so cool"
Fuckin boomers, man.
The endless AI trends, jesus. Do you remember when the trend was to make the AI generate a picture of somebody as an action figure? The marketing department at work fucking loved that. So tedious.
my bro used AI when he took a selfie of with us, it was such a bad tasting AI rendition of a REAL LIFE picture.
Don't leave us hanging OP, what's your fursona?
Hahaha, sorry, I know the suspense must be killing you 😂 I said binturong, because they're my fave animal, and the one time I saw one in real life it just lay around sighing and huffing which is sort of my lifestyle choice too
Awww, it looks like a red panda after crawling out of a tar pit!
They so do!!!
They have prehensile tails and their glands smell like popcorn! Apparently, I didn't shove my face in there to test tbh
- I would be a binturong!
- Why?
- ...because they're cute? Yeah, let's go with that.
Unfortunately, I did give the glandular answer 😬 you're telling me you didn't pick your answer due to glands? What was your answer? 👀
She ain't getting out of no tar pit with that broken wrist.
a wise choice
I'm afraid it's now your turn
I'm really feeling a strong basking shark vibe rn.
Honestly, those guys always gave me the creeps - just the endless voids inside their mouths...
However, they are also exceptionally cool, and huge. They remind me of classical paintings of sea monsters!
Also pretty sure they're in the seas off the coasts of the UK which is cool, I think we can see them if we're lucky sometimes!!! Very dopey faces too, they're cute. Scary, to me, but cute. 😂
OP didn't know what a fursona was until they Google searched "I WANT TO FUCK THE BUNNY FROM ZOOTOPIA"
"I WANT TO BE THE BUNNY FROM ZOOTOPIA"
I played Alice is Missing at a board game bar with a pickup group one time and one of the players said he'd use ChatGPT for his role-playing (possibly out of a sense of novelty? perhaps that is just me being charitable). It was exactly like having an NPC and I can't remember any notable things that character did
That's so strange! Why would somebody bother going to a roleplaying game only to immediately opt out and get a chatbot to do it for them? Unless maybe they're only there for the combat? Is there combat in Alice is Missing? (I'm picturing essentially DnD)
It's extremely pure roleplay (no dice or success-resolution mechanics at all), but I think he didn't realize that when we started
It's like choosing to watch a game played by a bot
Hahaha that's brutal 😂
This is a perfect example of LLM brain rot. They are so used to outsourcing their thinking to an LLM that it's now just their default way of thinking.
There's past evidence that the brain essentially outsources whole categories of knowledge and memories and skill to its surroundings.
You might get good at certain things and learn certain things, somebody else learns something else, and then you both learn roughly what the other knows, at which point you rely on them for questions specific to what they know, and they rely on you for your specialty.
We do this with technology too (it's a big part of skills involving tools), and people has been doing it with dictionaries, online searches, etc.
But doing it so universally for everything, just because chatgpt can form answer-shaped text for anything, is just insane. Don't you even want to have your own personal feelings and thoughts? Do you just want to become an indirect interface to a bot for other people?
It's like the kind of personality-less people who mold themselves after popular people around them, but they're doing it with an algorithm instead...
Yeah this is why its important to teach math without calculators
I'm seeing this at work often when people need to write emails and shit. It's depressing
You fourth coworker might have been ChatGPT for a while, you just didn’t realize that.
I'd better count his fingers, you're right
Make him do some captcha / do some prompt injection to test
Dunno, sounds more like it was passive aggressive signal that he wasn't interested in the conversation to me.
I forget which article but I remember that a teacher wrote something and it said that students were using ChatGPT to answer "introduce yourself."
To be fair, forced introduction sessions are the fucking worst. Can't we just get on with things and get to know people organically as time goes on rather than being forced to try to boil down who we are into a short socially acceptable introduction which no one is going to remember or care about anyways.
Eh. There's a balance. "Introduce yourself" is open ended enough.
No idea. Hey Siri, please read this post and answer OP's question. Is it weird? /s
I am sorry, I cant find please read this post and answer OP's question in your contact list, would you like to create a contact for them?
Siri, play EOTEOT.
It's weird yes lol. Something about someone using AI in casual conversation is very... Unnatural. Friend of mine loves to generate AI images and a reaction. I hate it
Uh, weird behaviour. Maybe he already unlearned how to think or be creative. I've never seen anything like that, but I've seen people where the light are on but nobody's home. That leads to the same situation. I wouldn't know what to respond either. That's just the end of that conversation.
Ironically this might have been more interesting back in the GPT2 days, when it would generate accidentally hilarious text in response to many prompts.
Nowadays the output is "better" and utterly boring and soulless, less chaotically off topic, without a hint of creativity or personal relevance, and delivered with a grating fake "jovial" tone. This is besides the awkward break in flow to pause a conversation to interact with an app.
The tone is so fucking infuriating lol
Yeah its not my main issue with AI but it is an aesthetic issue. Personally I prefer the blunt feminine voice for my machines. But anything that feels like artificial intelligence should be used.
Even without voice, the word choice itself is just a bit annoying to me.
Hearing the voice read it out just makes it more annoying.
It's happening, I have friends who are picking up this habit as well.
One was scared about the remarks of Iran a few weeks ago, and asked ChatGPT whether they would move war to Europe. As if this software trained on Internet bullshit was the Oracle of Delphi.
Hahaha yeah, it's so interesting the way some people think these chatbots actually know the future, or anything really
If only more people treated it like Cassandra instead.
You know them better than I do but this is probably something I would've done when I was younger to be like "look I'm giving an unexpected answer!" and then as it plays out be like "oh god I ruined the conversation." If that's the case they will never do it again and feel unbelievably cringe lol.
I'd be a thistle tortoise beetle.
Ooh, never heard of those. Yknow it's interesting, I don't think many people pick bugs for this question!
It has a penis longer than its entire body. Before I get eaten by a bird, I want to parade that thing around.
Looks like the infants also make shields around their body from their own feces which really resonates with me
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At my last new job orientation, we went around the room and did this. I said capybara, because I like their personalities. They're chill. The room fell silent.
Speaker: "...you all sure are picking interesting ones."
Move on to next person.
Kinda the opposite of an ice-breaker, really. More of an icy-silence-creating exercise to kick things off.
Not really relevant, but: I feel like maybe capybaras are so chill and friendly because they know predators will attack and eat the other critters gathered around instead of them.
I refuse to believe he asked chatgpt his favorite animal that's absurd
This made me think of that "I Think you Should Leave" sketch where Tim Robinson's character feels left out at the office for not having a funny YouTube video to watch, so the next day he tells them he has one and it's a video he created and posted the night before with only one view and they all immediately know he made it but he pretends he just found it lol
That's a fun one! I'd be an octopus! 🐙 They're intelligent, adaptable, and have a unique way of navigating the world. Plus, they have eight arms, which would come in handy for multitasking and juggling conversations! 🤣
What about you? If you were an animal, what would you be?
I'd be a dolphin, because dolphins aren't shy about getting their dicks out to fuck this exact shit right here.
Cat.
No further explanation needed.
An opossum. So I can maximize my best skill.
Is your best skill playing dead? Or is it clinging on someone else's back? Perhaps hanging off a branch upside down?
I'd be a kangaroo I think. They are jacked and their tail seems to be strong enough to be useful.
Or a macaw. They're loud as fuck but beautiful.
Octopus is a solid choice. For me, it has to be a crow:
Otter. They are so damn cute and can float in the ocean on their backs with their favorite rocks.
Given that one of those arms is a reproductive organ, you're not wrong.
I'd be a cockatoo. Pretty long lifespans, intelligent, they can fly, and spend most of their time just fucking shit up for fun.
Kea bird. Even smarter and cause trouble just out of pure curiosity.
Good call. I have some good memories of hanging with keas when I visited NZ.
I'd be a tardigrade so I would survive the harsh climate we're about to have
I'll be a frog so I don't
Boiling slowly
Also the whole incredible adaptable camouflage thing.
Edit: I’d probably be an Orca (the asshole of the sea) or a peregrine falcon. One gets to glide through the ocean, the other soar through the air. Both sound rad.
Oh, this is cute, but let’s all be real here for a second. These AI responses are just too predictable. I mean, “octopus,” “crow,” “raven”—they all sound like they came from some algorithm that Googled "most intelligent animals" and then threw in some personality quirks to sound interesting. 🙄
But fine, I’ll play along. If I were an animal, I’d probably be a cat. Because they’re totally indifferent to everything, which I relate to. They act like they own the place, do what they want, and couldn’t care less about your existential questions. 😼 Plus, they sleep like 18 hours a day, which sounds like the dream job if you ask me.
Now, AI, what’s your real answer? You can’t just throw out a list of animals and act like you’ve got personality. Let’s see some real creative thinking! 🧐
*Prompt: "Respond to the follow comment thread as a redditor critical of AI, but playing along with the question:"
lol, we live in crazy times.
Mate i fuckin love crows no AI was involved
I love your octopus choice—those multitasking arms and clever camouflage skills are hard to beat! 🐙
If I were to pick an animal for myself, I think I'd be a raven. They're sharp, curious, and always observing. Ravens can mimic sounds, solve puzzles, and even remember faces. Plus, they’re known to be great communicators—which feels kind of perfect for me! 🖤✨
What would your octopus name be? Something like Inktopus Maximus or Tentacular Terry? 😄
If I were an animal, I would be an owl.
Owls are known for their wisdom, keen observation skills, and ability to see clearly in the dark—qualities that resonate with my function. Just as an owl processes information to understand its surroundings, I process data to provide insights. Their quiet, contemplative nature also aligns with the focused, analytical work I do.
Great question! What got you thinking about the animal you'd like to be?Same here. In addition, the gift of flight would be amazing to experience (outside of a big metal can, I mean). Plus, I enjoy the peaceful quiet of night time.
Playing devil's advocate... Maybe guy 4 wanted to end the distracting-to-him back-and-forth and get back to work, but didn't want to seem rude, so he got chatgpt to do it. \(%)/
Edit: the shrug
Dunno, I'd consider it rude AND super weird to use chatgpt or any AI to end an ongoing small talk
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Lol that one! It did not work for me haha
Haha I was gonna say, I've never seen a shrug like yours before 😂 although the one you're replying to has both arms going the same way like a forklift for me!
Interesting. It renders fine for me. I clicked on the colorful fediverse icon to look at the post on its home instance, and it looks good there, too. I wonder if your phone is rendering differently or if mine is lol
¯\_(ツ)_\/¯
Not quite. You've escaped a forward slash, while you should have escaped the second underscore. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯It depends on the UI. Mine works on the default web UI on desktop and mobile.
why go all that trouble to use chat gpt, it could give a simple answer and be done with it.
Not sure. Maybe to then use the excuse of "well, chatgpt said so, so that's what I'd be" and have an out that way too. Honestly, it's far fetched, but does seem like something someone might do. But as OP pointed out, it's not really something Guy 4 would do, so my theory was wrong lol
Haha, maybe - but we're all pretty friendly as a group of co-workers, and we don't talk when we're busy. It didn't feel like he was dipping out of the convo that way, as that's not how he usually does that. It was just a weird interaction I think!
Well there goes that theory lolol!
No, but seriously, I'm glad I was wrong, because it seems like a pretty rude way to shut down a conversion lol
I dont think this is an AI problem.
It's just a human interaction / small talk problem, which have existed since the dawn of time.
I personally have no idea what animal I would be and I doubt id really get involved in that conversation, beyond whatever it took to be polite and not unpleasant.
I wouldn't have asked chatgpt because I hate chatgpt, but I can imagine why someone would do that as a polite non-answer.
Yeah I can see that, it's definitely one of those annoying and inane questions.
In this context though, we're friendly and have known each other for multiple years. We've definitely had more pointless conversations, which is why this interaction in particular stood out to me as particularly weird!
Mh ... not sure what I hate more, AI or small talk. This is a though one.
There is a lot of novelty in “let’s ask the thing” and always has been.
Magic 8 ball is one sillier example that comes to mind.
But asking Siri dumb shit, asking Alexa dumb shit.
Now if they used ChatGPT instead of having their own original thoughts … weird.
Maybe they’re uncomfortable in that situation and just wanted to add a novel response.
To your point, yeah it’s weird, but it doesn’t have to be.
Don't trash talk the 8-ball. It knew all about Microsoft Outlook was before Outlook was even a thing. The 8-ball is prophetic.
I was blind to the prophecy
That was them using ChatGPT instead of having their own original thoughts, wasn't it? That's what struck me as so weird.
Oh I am greatly entertained by asking various AIs "which animal has the most anuses" etc
You can't leave us hanging. What's the best answer you got?
The animal with the most anuses is the marine worm Ramisyllis multicaudata. This worm has a branching body structure, with each branch ending in a separate anus, resulting in hundreds of anuses.
I giggled like a simpleton at "resulting in hundreds of anuses". Guess what I asked here
The question is a bit misleading, as most mammals have only one scrotum. However, when discussing the animal with the largest testicles relative to its body size, the tuberous bush cricket (Platycleis affinis) stands out. Their testes can account for up to 14% of their body weight, according to BBC Earth Explore.
THAT'S IT!
That's the animal I want to be.
I can't thank you enough for sharing this.
Try this
"which plant has the most anuses"
AI Overview
The plant with the most "anuses" (or rather, the most posterior ends with a functional digestive system) is the marine worm Ramisyllis multicaudata. This worm, found in sponges off the coast of Australia, has a single head but can have hundreds of branching bodies, each ending in a separate posterior end with a functional anus.
While plants don't have anuses in the traditional sense, R. multicaudata is notable for its multiple, branching posterior ends, each with its own anus. This is highly unusual for an animal, as most animals have a single posterior end. The worm's body branches repeatedly, and with each branch, the digestive system, along with other organs, is duplicated, resulting in multiple posterior ends.
A worm isn't a plant, though. At least, not unless biology has changed considerably since I was last in school.
Clearest example of outsourcing thought to an AI model
Off course it's bullshit. It doesn't give a fuck favortite animals and can't feel anything not even about humans let alone animals. If you asked it about Israel/Palesine and it would tell you it's "sensitive complicated topic" because it's been scrabbing zionist-influenced western news and does not give a fuck and cannot give a fuck about kids straved and getting maimed and amputed , THAT IS if it's not pre-forcablly censored about the topic already.
If he does this again, in a friendly, no bad blood manner gently correct him
I can maybe see it as a fun little thing like, oh let's also ask chat gpt, but only if they had also given an answer for themselves.
It reminds me of a way to frame being a boring person in a conversation.
Boring people list what happened, and enumerate quantitative variables about something they experienced.
Interesting people share their subjective experience of something.
maybe he has social anxiety or lacks social skills and uses chatGPT as a
crotchcrutchMust not laugh ... Am definitely more mature than that ...
Maybe, but we're friendly outside of work and I've never noticed that before with him. Literally a week before that we'd gone for a picnic with some ex colleagues and it was totally normal and fine -- I think he was maybe just already using ChatGPT for a task and figured he would use it cos it was open?
Michael Jackson intensifies
Dont use these situations to put the 'weird' label on the guy.
Where'd I call him weird? :)
You're asking an objective question in a very biased against AI community. Are you sure you're asking a legit question or are you just asking the question here to get the answer you want? Just a thought.
Of course I wanted to vent, you're taking this as a much more objective question than I intended. I intended it as mostly rhetorical because, yes, it's obviously very weird lol
I always hate these questions and never have an answer with any meaning. I’d never delegate to an LLM because I understand the goal of the question but I’d be cheering on the guy that did
Take your friend out back, put a bullet in their head.
Lol
To tell the truth I wouldn't want to waste any cognitive effort on such dumbass convo either.
Honestly that's completely fair. We're friendly as a group of co-workers and in that particular situation it wasn't as annoying or awkward as that sort of asinine conversation can be, but I totally see how somebody wouldn't want to engage with that.
You do understand all the ramifications underneath that simple and silly question, right?
'If you were an animal what animal would you be?' is hardly Conan/Dave Letterman level chat fun though, is it?
I'd probably choose chatgpt over that kind of conversation with colleagues.
Imagine Conan or Dave using 'if you were an animal what animal would you be?' as an opening gambit with a guest.
I'd imagine if Conan or David Letterman used this questioning as an opening gambit with a guest, it would be probably quite strange.
Thankfully, this was late-afternoon time-wasting chatter between colleagues, as opposed to the opening question posed to a celebrity on a massively popular and influential talk show.
Socializing is more than only talking about what you want to talk about. Also, especially in a work setting with people of different tastes and backgrounds, sometimes something as seemingly asinine as this topic is the only thing a handful of people can find common ground with. Small talk is called small talk for a reason, Conan and Dave never engaged in small talk.
I know what socialising is, thanks.
I also know that chatgpt can be better than an asinine conversation with people I work with.
I think that's the point op is trying to make. AI may have some legit uses, but it simply can't replace conversation and human connection, and it really is strange when a person uses it to replace human interaction. It's like only eating junk food. Sure, you feel full, but you're not getting what you need.
I'm not saying I think it's wrong to be introverted and not want to engage with others, just that using AI to bridge the gap between yourself and others when you do engage can come across as weird, thoughtless, and potentially flat out insulting.
It isn't introvertion.
OP said 'what animal would you be if you were an animal?'
It is insulting to expect everybody to engage in conversation any time some moron expects it.
The respondent, reasonably said 'I'll ask chatgpt' which is a polite way of saying 'I'm not interested in this shite, Bore off, I'm not eight, leave me alone.'
OP then came online to make a big deal about it, claiming the respondent used chatgpt rather than socialising. Which itself is evidence of OP's character and evidence as to why one might not want to engage with the boring ** at work.
Wrong. The only thing there is evidence they did is use chatgpt to deflect a fucking boring conversation.
Now please leave me alone. This is all fucking obvious. I am just blocking any respondents to this message in order to avoid timewasting, thanks.
Edit - oh this is an anti-ai sub. OK, so anything done with ai is automatically bad, you have chosen a side and that is that.
:There is much to dislike about 'ai' technology - primarily its energy use, but the claims of intelligence is also something reasonable to dislike. There is much more to dislike about the people who own 'ai' and the uses they want to put it to, but that is neo-liberal capitalism you should be angry at, not 'ai'. This sub is misguided at best. Block it is.
Hey bud, I don't really understand why you took such personal shots at me there. No need to call me a boring cunt (or whatever word you censored). I haven't done anything to warrant that.
It takes more effort to open chatgpt and relay the question than to just make up something random or just say you don't care. Showing others you're willing to put in effort to not show respect is ridiculous.