JemmyFirefox Sidebar and Vertical tabs: try them out in Nightly Firefox Labs 131 – Firefox Nightly News
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I tried this last night and I actually really like it. The default theme seems to have changed also and looks much cleaner.
And you can have AI models open in the sidebar. Not only chatgpt but also other open source and free models like huggingface. I thought that was very cool.
I don't know if the general public have even tried any other model than chatgpt. It's fun to play around with others.
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I personally don't see a value until we can get rid of the title bar and gain some vertical space.
I say this as a sane person who maintains under 10 tabs at all times but I do acknowledge that most of you are lunatics when it comes to browser tabs.
Checking in with > 200 tabs in sideberry
ZagorathOn my desktop I've currently got 4 windows with 101, 103, 17, and 191 tabs. Think it's about 60 on my phone, and currently only about 30 on my tablet.
devfuuuNow this is a much more reasonable default. Like me. I managed to close a bunch of tabs and a window this week.
LemongrabI close all my tabs many times a day. Probably would be about 50-150+ a day if I didn't tho lol
Blisterexe
QuintusCan anybody post some pictures?
Looks like this, but its subject to change
communismIs there an option to expand the vertical tabs so that they say the page title?
Yes, but its a button, not on hover
I've already seen people suggesting "expand on hover" to Mozilla, on Connect, I think. Hoping they consider it, later on.
Is that Gnome with a DK/SE/NO locale?
Idk, its not my image, although ive used the feature
I think it looks elegant. Nice. I will keep using CTRL + [insert number here], though.
darkham
It's native and in work, I hope they will do something like sidetabs (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidetabs/)
LuciOMG finally! Now I don't need a bunch of addons that always break to do this!!
BappityI think the ultimate form of Firefox vertical tabs is sideberry
when they natively have all or most of the features that sideberry has, they would have mastered it
Sideberry really is amazing. So good I could never switch to another browser if it meant abandoning it.
it enables me leaving open a billion tabs because they're so easy to switch between and organise with it 😭😭😭
Never see anything on this one I think... Or don't remember. I was using sidetabs.
highly recommend checking it out! it's very feature rich!
Eager Eaglehard to say which tab is active
Cadeillacunfortunately it doesn't expand the tab names on hover; I find something like this more useful:
Sorry, but I already super enjoy tree style tabs, even though it was kind of a mess to configure
KarmmahThe addon Tree style tabs itself shouldn't have been the problem, or was it? It's hiding the default tabs what's not a smooth process for me.
Finally. I've been so excited for this. I have managed to never try any of the extensions so I won't be disappointed lol.
airbussyDoes anyone have a screenshot of how it looks? I'm curious
This thread has some screenshots
I've gotten so used to Sideberry that I'm not likely to switch to the built-in vertical tabs once it gets released.
Sidebar makes my Firefox pretty slow at startup and has a few bugs. I would love a native alternative with similar features. Namely I would really like vertical tabs that aren't a sidebar because I want to be able to use sidebars without hiding my tabs... But seems like this new implementation is *also* a sidebar.
Sidebery is fantastic, but I do feel like it's making things a bit slow. I might be prepared to give up on panels and nesting if I can get better performance. (And possibly the Tab Groups work can replace my use of panels.)
My main issue with a non-native solution is that you need use userchrome hacks to make the horizontal tabs bar disappear, which doesn't sync between installations. I use Firefox in multiple computers at the school I work at, so it isn't a viable solution.
landAny news on the tab groups? Also, anyone mind sharing a GIF or a small clip of the vertical tabs?
Interesting how the announcement contains neither mention nor screenshot of the new AI chatbot that appears to be in it...
I thought that was going to be an integral part of the sidebar. Are they keeping it turned off by default?
The AI assistant stuff is currently an opt-in experiment.
As is the sidebar, thus why I was curious about how joined the features are.
I would love it if Mozilla cast the AI trend aside and left the chatbot junk to extensions, like we already have. Even for an AI evangelist, the landscape has become dotted with chatbots that are incompatible with each other but link back to the same APIs.
To be clearer, at least for now, they're literally separate checkboxes. I have the sidebar on, AI off.
I would love it if Mozilla cast the AI trend aside
I feel you... :^(
heftigIt's another feature that intersects with the sidebar work but has to be enabled separately.
ParadoxvoidReally looking forward to this once it's complete! I'm currently using ranmaru22's vertical tabs, but having something native that won't risk breaking with FF updates will be nice.
Finally vertical tabs, have been missing those
I have a custom FF theme that, combined with a tab tree extension, gives me a vertical layout, but it's still kind of hacky. It will be nice to finally have fully supported vertical tabs.
I'm especially hopeful that native support will make those extensions even better.
The fact that their page doesn't even show a screenshot of the new feature doesn't bear well for how popular it's going to be. I'm already going into it with a I probably won't like this attitude and that doesn't help
Nightly is aimed at developers. I’m sure there will be an article with pictures once it’s closer to release.
I was surprised to see the article doesn't include a screenshot of the feature in action.
Well, I tried it and it looks good. I'm glad they are adding something new to the browser. It's been a long time since that happened it feels like.
It's buggy still though and still in development.
Just this past year - Builtin offline translation - A pdf editor - Firefox View - And of course a whole bunch of privacy, security, performance, and developer features
I can't wait for vertical tabs! I can finally stop using so many plug-ins.
Though the AI stuff, it's so much better to get a dedicated program or app for them, I do not need an AIO browser for freaking AI.
Vertical tabs are what kept me on Microsoft Edge for the longest time (alongside that surf minigame that can be played offline), but I'm not a fan of that thing anymore so... Firefox it is.
Please bring me vertical tabs.
I actually prefer to just integrate the AI stuff into my usual chat apps [1]. I don’t see much point in building a whole new app (except to get more control over the settings, but for most people even that’s probably unnecessary)
[1] https://jackson.dev/post/chaz/
Years ago, I used an extension called Tree Style Tab. It's better than just vertically displaying tabs. New tabs open as children, and you can collapse branches, so things stay organized when you have a ton of tabs.
Another popular one is sideberry, which is a variation of the same thing. :)
I use sideberry in floorp which has been great!
I think I like the direction they've been going in lately.
Did they really send out an opinion survey, woth a question on something they already did?
Does this mean PWAs are hidden in there somewhere?
Add tab groups like chrome!
Is there a screenshot?
Mozilla has so much blogs and sub-blogs, you can't really know which one to follow for news and announcements
Are they still randomly disabling options in the UI, then when people document how to edit those options in about:config they remove those too?
Dun wannem 😡
Dunusem? 😉