Signal messenger blocked in Russia, says Roskomnadzor

submitted a month ago by Nemeski

www.reuters.com/technology/signal-messenger-blo…

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BCX a month ago

Can't have secret talk amongst the peasants

woelkchen a month ago

Telegram, including secret chats, is not blocked because Russian elites happen to use that, too.

brrt a month ago

I could put on my tinfoil hat and say if signal is blocked but telegram isn’t, maybe that means that telegram isn’t as secret as they make it out to be.

woelkchen a month ago

It's open source. Look can up the encryption yourself.

Varcour a month ago

No need, all you have to do is read the whitepaper. they home brewed the encryption algorithm and nobody actually knows if it's worth a damn. That's not exactly a secret.

And it isn't even encrypted by default, you manually have to enable that. By default, all your plain text messages are stored on their servers.

woelkchen a month ago

nobody actually knows if it’s worth a damn.

After all these years, security researchers still don't know if the encryption is any good?

doodledup a month ago

They don't have reproducible builds afaik (unlike Signal). You can have a completely different code running on your phone than on GitHub.

Besides, who is using Secret Chat anyways? All default chats and group chats are unencrypted.

woelkchen a month ago

You can have a completely different code running on your phone than on GitHub.

Just use the F-Droid version if there is any doubt.

Besides, who is using Secret Chat anyways?

Probably Russians who used Signal before.

catloaf a month ago

Can it be proven that that encryption is what's used in practice?

woelkchen a month ago

Just use the F-Droid version if there is any doubt.

lemmylommy a month ago

Telegram is shady as fuck and also afaik only uses end to end encryption in „secret“ one on one chats.

woelkchen a month ago

Telegram is shady as fuck and also afaik only uses end to end encryption in „secret“ one on one chats.

I was very explicitly referring to secret chats.

Treczoks a month ago

Youtube, signal blocked. What is Putin afraid of?

lemmylommy a month ago

Details or continued news of Ukraines special military operation to denazify Russia?

Jo Miran a month ago

Signal over Proton VPN Stealth protocol. All free, specifically for these types of situations.

Pasta Dental a month ago

Signal needs a phone number though

Works with VoIP numbers though

Jo Miran a month ago, edited a month ago

They did away with that some time ago.

EDIT: To clarify, it no longer shows the number.

https://signal.org/blog/phone-number-privacy-usernames/

Wildly_Utilize a month ago, edited a month ago

They never stopped requiring a phone number to sign up.

They just let you hide this from other users now

I'm planning to get a prepaid burner to try signal but I'm a bit concerned about the fact my contacts are associated with a phone #

We are using simplex ATM

Jo Miran a month ago

Yes. I clarified that in a different comment. My original reply was not meant as "Signal is the best solution" but as a heads up that Proton Stealth can not only bypass the block but also disguise the traffic if you want to continue using Signal.

Pasta Dental a month ago

That's not really the issue though, if you want to stay anonymous and not tell the government you use signal, since sms is insecure

treadful a month ago, edited a month ago

Non-paywalled: https://archive.is/9MEKt

Nemeski [OP] a month ago

Not seeing paywall myself, clearing cookies and other site data might also help.

Socsa a month ago

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Resol van Lemmy a month ago

I hope Roskomnadzor doesn't chase after the fediverse next.

Deceptichum 4 weeks ago

How would you? You’d have to block every instance.

Resol van Lemmy 4 weeks ago

They could start by blocking the biggest instances, then slowly chasing after the smaller ones.

There's not an infinite amount of instances, even if new ones are made, they'll get all of them eventually. So this is basically a cat and mouse game.

I wonder what messaging service the Russian govt will use.