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Xi is pushing climate, study shows
Enabling climate acceleration are economic sectors such as land use, China coal, Saudi Aramco, Coal India, Gazprom (Russia), National Iranian Oil — in that order.
Since 2021, China coal sends more carbon in the air than NATO equities and Arab states combined. The China coal sector is increasing capacity and is delivering 12.7 GtCOe in 2024.
The #GreenhouseForcing results are published at: http://data.yt/projections/2024-results.html @climate
These things only become meaningful when you look at emissions per capita AND remember that China manufactures large amounts of the world's stuff. All your iPhone emissions count as China's because it was manufactured there, but they really belong to your country. Same for loads of other stuff. Careful you don't fall for the tenor of this article, because it's probably intended to distract you ("Why should I bother when China is really bad?") and keep you consuming
Yeah, but the energy for manufacturing comes from a just large percentage of coal power plants and it seems they even want to build new ones.
So yes, they are the world's factory and it's unfair to just blame them for building stuff for us. But how they do it needs to be criticised
Eh, this is a little simplistic. While it is indisputably true that you have to look at per capita emissions and that chinese manufacturing makes loads of the stuff made that second point needs more exploring.
Because capitalism is a garbage, nightmare system manufacturing gets sent, in general, to the cheapest manufacturer. The fantasy is this represents the most awesome, magical, and clever business but IRL it usually has more to do with loosest tax, safety, and environmental laws.
So you can't view the manufacturing as some selfless sacrifice of emissions, there may be government policies in play meaning idk dirty power is really cheap or whatever.
I basically think country vs country is a fucking stupid lens to view this through in general, because for all some fakelandian business might dump uranium in a river fakelandia is probably the way it is for reasons that non uranium dumping countries aren't guilt free in.
our global system has produced these problems, not moustache twirling villianous defectors.
I love Lemmy. I often come in here thinking about the downsides of an article and it's usually the top voted comment. Contrast with the... other... site... where the top comment is probably racist posted by a bot.
They're still barely over half of US GHG emissions per capita. Fine they use more coal per capita, still much better than the US overall.
You picked one of the worst countries on the globe.
China has managed to surpass fucking Germany in emissions per capita, one of the worst polluters in Europe with an enormous fossil fuel car & coal lobby.
And yes, just like China, Germany exports more than it imports. Any outsourced emissions are offset through this.
Not to mention they're installing more solar than the rest of the world combined. They're definitely putting effort into transitioning.
Yeah, the only reason coal emissions are going up is because they're growing too fast for even renewable energy buildouts to match increasing demand, so coal is their only option to keep up with power and steel production. The alternative is to slow development, and they're understandably not willing to do that with the US breathing down their necks and India right next door growing just as fast.
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I guess it should be the other way around. More money (per person) means you should be able to afford reducing GHG. For example by better isolating your home, using cleaner sources of energy or constructing more power efficient machines.
Why should how wealthy you are factor into how much you pollute? Per capita is the only sensible measurement here.
The idea is GDP is a measure of activity. So using per GDP allows you to see the efficiency which you are producing "value". That's not a terrible idea in general but it accepts a very narrow definition of value.
GDP is a really flawed measure of how well a society is performing. I wonder what it would look like if we used Gross National Happiness or Total Quality Life Years. Could also think about ecosystem health or biodiversity as a valuable output of a country but that's highly linked to CO2 emissions so wouldnt be meaningful.
Also worth saying whilst per capita is absolutely important as a measure for us to understand the performance of human economic systems the earth systems only respond to gross total emissions.
Creation of value means nothing in the context of climate change. The atmosphere doesn’t say “you’re less at fault because you made *so much value for the shareholders*”.
The only measure that means anything is absolute emissions, full stop.
I acknowledged this in my last paragraph. We should care about value though and we need to fight for that value to be something positive and meaningful (human and non-human health and wellbeing is a good start imo) not just shareholders.
Ultimately, there is a lot flawed in carbon accounting systems but we do need measures that allow us to assess if individuals, organisations and nations are doing enough and importantly articulate what pathways to zero emissions look like and that does mean trying to work out which processes are producing something we want with low or no emissions or not.
NATO equities? What?
It can't be, that totalitarian regime doesn't give f about climate, people and many other things that are more important than money etc. But hey, tankies will still love Xi bc he is dictator on the other side of barricade between dictatlr's war.
What a wonderful moment to witness! A message finds the receiver it was intended for. Turns out it‘s not only a receiver but a repeater, too.
"G/year" "GtCOe" Be careful of feeding the "science is wrong" trolls by misrepresenting units of measure.